THE NATURAL
 

The Bailey Howell Interview

 

By:  Michael D. McClellan | Monday, January 17th, 2005

 

 


 

 

 

On November 25th, 1960, you registered NBA career-highs with 43 points and 32 rebounds in a home battle against the Los Angeles Lakers.  What was it like to play so well against the likes of Elgin Baylor, Jerry West and Hot Rod Hundley?
 

It was a big thrill whenever something like that happened, because it didn’t happen that often.  The Lakers had Rudy LaRusso, who was their defensive stopper.  He was a tough assignment.  On a couple of occasions I grabbed more than thirty rebounds, but I don’t remember one of them being the same night that I scored forty-three points.  We played a double-header once, and I grabbed thirty-two rebounds against the Lakers.  But LaRusso didn’t let me score all of those points [laughs].

 


 

 

Later that season, the Pistons battled the Lakers in the Western Division Semifinals, taking them to the five game limit.  What was that experience like for you, and what still stands out about it after all of these years?
 

The biggest thing was playing against Jerry West and Elgin Baylor.  In my opinion, West ranks as one of the greatest guards to ever play the game – easily in the top three or four.  And as for Baylor, I still consider him to be the top forward in the history of the NBA.  I remember trying to stop him, and then realizing that nobody was going to stop Baylor – especially me [laughs].  So I went into each game with the mindset that I was going to make him earn his points.  He might score thirty, but he was going to take a lot of shots to get there.

 


 

 

In 1962, John Havlicek joined the Celtics as a rookie out of Ohio State.  Please tell me about some of those battles with Celtics, and about your personal matchups with players such as Havlicek and Satch Sanders.
 

When we played the Celtics, they had some of their greatest teams.  Players like Bill Russell, Sam Jones and Tommy Heinsohn were in their prime.  Bob Cousy was winding up his hall-of-fame career.  As for Havlicek, he started out playing the role of Sixth Man, and he wasn’t an outstanding shooter at that point in his career.  He later became a terrific shooter through practice and dedication, and that was part of what made him so great.  The other thing was his tremendous stamina.  I believe his resting heart rate was close to forty beats-per-minute, which allowed him to outrun and outlast the opposition.  He’d just keep running, and eventually the other guy would wear down.

Havlicek was a difficult matchup.  He was big enough to play forward and quick enough to play guard.  Because of these advantages, he really presented problems wherever he was asked to play.  He could run the floor against the big, slow guys, and he could step out on the quick guards and really play great defense.  Kevin McHale was the only other player I saw who really posed the same kind of matchup problems.  McHale also started out as the Celtics’ Sixth Man, and he was really able to use his height – and long arms – at the forward position.  He could do this because he had Robert Parish playing center beside him.  Having Chief there allowed McHale to shoot over the forwards, but he could also use those incredible moves to get around the slower players.  So where Havlicek got his mismatches against guards and forwards, McHale got his against forwards and centers.

 

When the Pistons played the Celtics I wasn’t matched up against Havlicek.  It was usually Tom Sanders.  He was the Celtics’ defensive stopper, and he going to Boston I always knew I’d be in for some difficult times.  Tom played me well, and that was only part of it.  There was all of that talent and tradition, and the great Bill Russell.  He was the league MVP, and probably the greatest player ever.  So playing Boston was not an easy assignment.

 


 

 

Following five seasons with the Pistons, you found yourself playing for a new team.  Please tell me how you ended up in Baltimore, and what it was like to reach the Western Division Finals against the Lakers.
 
Baltimore was an expansion team – they were known as the Chicago Zephyrs during the 1961-62 season, but then moved to Baltimore and changed their name to the Bullets.  They had some successful teams early on.  In Detroit, we finished second in the West to the St. Louis Hawks (1959-60) and then really struggled.  We didn’t win half of our games after that, but each season we seemed to improve.  I felt that we were getting ready to contend for the Western Division title.  Coach Dick McGuire retired after the 1962-63 season, and then the Pistons brought in Charlie Wolf.  Charlie had coached the Cincinnati Royals for three seasons prior to taking over in Detroit.  He changed a lot of things and, looking back, he made a lot of bad decisions.  We won only 23 games that year.  The Pistons didn’t fire him – instead, they decided to make a gigantic trade involving a bunch of players.  Four or five went to Baltimore, along with a draft choice, and three or four of the Bullet players ended up with the Pistons.  The Pistons started the next season 2-9 and Wolf was fired.  They were able to rebuild with players like Dave Bing and Dave DeBusschere, and really get the franchise back on its feet.

 

The Bullets had a really good club, but the team concept was lacking.  We won most of our home games, lost most of our road games, and never really figured out how to play together.  We won thirty-seven games that season and wound up in third place in our division.  We played the Hawks in the opening round of the playoffs, splitting the two games in St. Louis and then winning the next two at home.  We just couldn’t beat the Lakers on the road.  They took us 4-2 in that series.  All six games were competitive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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