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The Harold Furash Interview
By:  Michael D. McClellan | Wednesday, March 30th 2005

 


You have been following the Boston Celtics for many years.  Please take me back to the early days – how did you become such a fan, and what are some of the memories that still stand out from those first few seasons?

HAROLD FURASH

I was brought up in Roxbury, and the only basketball being played at that time was in the YMHA League on Saturdays.  I became a fan because of those games, although I didn’t play a lot of basketball myself.  It was the time of the Great Depression, and there wasn’t a lot of money available for sports leagues and sports-related programs.  I returned from the service in 1945, and in the fall of that year Walter Brown was putting together the Boston Celtics.  I read where he had signed a player named Vick Segal, a semi-pro player out of Davenport, Iowa.  Segal was a spectacular guard, and one of the first Celtics signed.  Well, I’d heard about Segal and was excited to see him play.  I went to the very first practice ever held by the Boston Celtics just to get a look at Segal in action, but he didn’t show – Walter Brown had offered him $50 per game, and it didn’t take Segal long to find out that Brown was paying some of the other players more.  Brown stood firm on his contract.  He was an honest and fair businessman who believed in honoring an agreement.  So he refused to budge, only saying “We have a deal”.  Segal left and never came back.

The NBA didn’t get started until the following year, 1946 – I was one of the Boston Celtics’ first season ticket holders – and fans today have no idea how hard it struggled to turn a profit.  Trust me, the league was next to nothing in those days.  Walter Brown hired Honey Russell as his first head coach, getting him from Seton Hall, and Russell coached the team for two seasons before being replaced by Alvin “Doggie” Julian.  Julian had won both the NCAA and the NIT at Holy Cross, had coached Bob Cousy there, and was thought to be the perfect man to turn things around.

I was coaching the New England Paraplegic Veteran's Association basketball team during the 1953-54 season, and I had refereed some of the paraplegic games prior to that, so I thought there might be an opportunity for me to referee some of the Celtics’ scrimmages.  I contacted Doggie, gave him my credentials  and asked him if I could ref during practice.  So I met Doggie that way, and that’s how I started working with the team.  By the end of his second season I’d gotten to know the players quite well.

Doggie resigned after coaching the team for two seasons – he returned to the college game as head coach at Dartmouth – and Walter Brown hired Red Auerbach as his replacement in 1950.  I’ll never forget showing up and meeting him for the first time – he was a suspicious individual by nature, very streetwise, and didn’t really trust anyone until he got to know them first.   Fortunately for me, I knew Sonny Hertzberg.  Sonny played two seasons for the Celtics and Red trusted him.  So Red let me continue refereeing the Celtics scrimmages, which was something that I did up until the end of Bill Russell’s career in 1969.

I became very close to the players through the years.  Bob Brannum was like family to me – his son’s middle name is “Harold”.  Bill Russell lived near me at one point in his career, and his oldest son, Will Jr., is my godson.  There were so many relationships built up over time.  Those are the things that really stand out for me.

 


The great Johnny Most began broadcasting Celtics games in 1953.  Prior to that, Mr. Most worked alongside Marty Glickman in New York.  Please tell me about Johnny Most, and your unique method of catching his Celtics broadcasts from the Big Apple.

HAROLD FURASH

Back then the Boston Celtics’ front office consisted of four people:  Walter Brown, Red Auerbach, Howie McHugh and Bill Mokray.  McHugh played hockey for Brown at one point – people forget that Brown was a hockey man long before he owned the Celtics – and because of that relationship, McHugh ended up being hired as the public relations arm of the team.  Mokray was hired as the basketball director.  Those were the four in the front office at the time – as hard as it might be to believe today, that was it.   I was chummy with McHugh, so when I learned that the team was looking for a radio broadcaster, I quickly brought up Most’s name for the job.  Glickman also called Red and plugged Most, and it wasn’t long after his call that Johnny Most was broadcasting games for the Celtics.

Johnny and I became very good friends over the years.  I frequently traveled with the team, and I joined him at the microphone on many occasions.  I would sit with Johnny while he called the games, and during breaks in the action he would often interview me.  Once, he did something that announcers never, ever do – he gave up the  microphone and had me call the game while he stepped aside to take care of something [laughs].  I was with Johnny during Bill Russell’s first game at Madison Square Garden, and also shared a seat with him at just about every stadium at the time – from War Memorial and those games against the Syracuse Nationals, to Convention Hall in Philadelphia.

My wife was a big basketball fan, too.  Early on, there wasn’t any radio coverage of the Celtics when they were on the road.  The same with Holy Cross.  So when either Holy Cross or the Celtics played in New York, we would drive to one of the three hills in the Corey Hill section of Brookline, and from there we could pick up the reception from Madison Square Garden.  So that was our little trick [laughs].

 


Originally a hockey man, team founder Walter Brown overcame many obstacles in helping both the Boston Celtics and the NBA find an audience.  What made it so hard for professional basketball to gain a foothold in Boston, and what were some of the things that really propelled the team to popularity?

HAROLD FURASH
Two words:  Bob Cousy.  Cousy is the reason the fans flocked to see the Boston Celtics, pure and simple, and he is also the reason the team was able to survive in those early years.  To put it into the proper context, Walter Brown was the president of the Boston Garden-Arena Corporation and the owner of the Boston Celtics, and both businesses were losing money.  The Celtics were struggling to win games.  The Garden was struggling to put fans in the seats, and it was having a hard time filling its schedule.  From the start of the 1946-47 season until 1949-50, paid attendance at Celtics games was anywhere from four thousand on the low end to eight thousand on the high end.  Red hadn't been hired yet.  Cousy hadn't joined the team.  And Boston, at that time, was a college town when it came to selling sports.  Harvard and Boston College football were big draws.  Holy Cross was the hot basketball ticket.  There was a big interest in hockey.  It was almost endless, because there are 64 colleges in-and-around Boston, and then there were all of the professional teams on top of that:  The Red Sox drew well; the Boston Braves were also in town – they had been playing baseball since 1876 – before leaving for a new home in Milwaukee in 1953; and the Boston Redskins were playing professional football.  I used to watch them as a kid , and around 1935 I remember them having a pretty good team.  They got into the playoffs that year, but owner Preston Marshall moved the team to Washington and drafted Sammy Baugh.  Who knows what would have happened if Baugh had been on the team a few years earlier.  The team may have never moved.  Regardless, the sports market was crowded even with the Redskins in Washington.

And at the time, there just wasn't a great interest in basketball.  The YMHA and the West End House were the only two places in the city playing organized ball of any kind.  New York teams would come to town to play doubleheaders against both of these teams, but basketball just didn't have the same participation as baseball, football and hockey.

The sportswriters were the other problem Walter Brown faced when it came promoting the Boston Celtics.  All of the sportswriters in town knew baseball front and backwards.  And even if they didn't it was an easy sport to cover; they could just pull out a book on statistics and recite anything from batting averages to on-base percentages.  It was also a slower-paced game, which made it easier for the broadcasters to call.  And, bottom line, the writers didn't have to sell baseball.  It was already an established sport.

When Cousy graduated from Holy Cross, he'd already established a reputation as a showman who could dazzle the crowd.  He was a very big attraction – Holy Cross routinely put more fans in the Boston Garden than the Celtics did at the time – and his addition to Walter Brown's team meant an additional 7,000 fans per game.  Red came in at the same time, even though he initially didn't want Cousy on the roster.  It was the perfect mix, because Red was way ahead of his time in many respects – he drafted Frank Ramsey as a junior eligible in 1953, which he later did when drafting Larry Bird.  He also took Cliff Hagen in that same draft.  Hagan later became the instrumental piece in the Bill Russell trade.  That's when the Celtics really started to become a part of the sports system in the city.  But without Bob Cousy, the rest may not have been possible.

 


The fabled Boston Garden is no longer in existence, but its memories will last for generations to come.  What made the Garden such a special place, and do you have a favorite Boston Garden moment?

HAROLD FURASH
I'll answer the last part of your question first.  There are so many memories and great moments that it's hard to pick a favorite, but it would have to be the Game 7, double-overtime win over the St. Louis Hawks for the 1957 NBA Championship.  It was the team's first title.  It came after all of those years of struggling.  And it was the first.  Havlicek's steal was a famous moment, and every championship had its special place, but I'd still have to go with the win over the Hawks.

The Boston Garden and I were made for each other.  They used to have doubleheaders in the Garden, and I used to referee almost all of the preliminary games.  It was just a very special place.  We had box seat season tickets – they were front row for hockey, and six rows back for basketball – and all of the players wives sat in the rows directly in front of us.  Bill Russell was friendly with singer Johnny Mathis, and [Russell's wife] Rose would bring Johnny to the games with her.

The Garden was almost identical in design to Madison Square Garden, which could hold 18,000, but fire laws restricted the capacity at Boston Garden to 13,909.  That didn’t stop them from putting up to 17,000 people in the building for an exceptional attraction or a big game.  Those are great memories as well.  What else?  I was also in-and-out of the locker room through the Russell Era, the Heinsohn-Cowens 70s, and during the early 80s when K.C. Jones coached the teams.  Being able to talk to the players and coaches, those were really a special part of going to the Boston Garden.

 


Celtic great Bill Russell was no stranger to racial prejudice and stereotypes.  He once said:  “What's more important than who's going to be the first black sports manager is who's going to be the first black sports editor of the New York Times.”  Please tell me about the civil rights landscape that Russell faced as a Boston rookie in 1957.

HAROLD FURASH
It’s hard to describe this country in the middle of the Cold War.  Blacks were forced to sit in the back of the bus, eat in the back of the restaurant, whatever.  It was just brutal.  Even the big cities like Washington were segregated.

That’s a very good quote by Russell, by the way.  He is a very complicated man, and I think a lot of that complexity comes from the discrimination that he faced as an African-American.  He has a reputation for being difficult, but I think you should walk in his shoes before you judge him so quickly.  Remember, Bill Russell played professional basketball in Boston, at a time when the city was not known as the most racially tolerant place to be.  He carried himself with a lot of pride, and rightfully so; I think he wanted to be recognized as a person first and not solely as a black athlete.  He knew that his fame and stature gave him a different level of treatment compared to ordinary African Americans of the day, and I think this bothered him.  If he weren’t a famous basketball player, then he would have been sitting in the back of the bus, or in the back of the restaurant, or whatever.  I think these were some of the things that made him appear – to the average white fan, at least – as an angry person.  He is just an incredible person.

 


Celtic greats Bob Cousy and Tom Heinsohn were collegiate stars at Holy Cross, at a time when Holy Cross basketball was arguably more popular than Boston’s NBA counterparts.  How much did it help having Cousy and Heinsohn playing for the Celtics?

HAROLD FURASH
It was an incredible benefit.  I've already talked about Cousy, and everyone is aware of his special place in the history of the NBA and the Boston Celtics.  But as far as measuring Tommy's impact on the team, it's important to remember that Tommy happened along at an awkward time.  If he hadn't played when the Celtics had such great players as [Bill] Sharman, Cousy, Russell and Sam Jones on the roster, well then I think Tommy would have gone down as one of the greatest forwards in league history.  And it's important to remember that it was a different era – back then, the game was geared toward the shooting guard and not the small forward.  Tommy doesn't get enough credit for his contributions to those championship teams.

 

 

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Michael D. McClellan can be reached at:  mmcclellan@celtic-nation.com  

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