THE NATURAL
 

The Bailey Howell Interview

 

By:  Michael D. McClellan | Monday, January 17th, 2005

 

 


 

 

In 1966, Red Auerbach sent Mel Counts to Baltimore in exchange for a rugged, multi-talented All-Star named Bailey Howell.  What was it like coming to Boston, and what do you remember most about that first season?
 

It was a big thrill to go to a club with mediocre success to a team that had won eight NBA championships in a row.  I got to play with players like Sam Jones, John Havlicek and Bill Russell, which was very special for me because they were such special people.  The Celtics were the defending champions when I arrived, but they were aging together as a team.  The key players were brought in at roughly the same time, and the team always had the last pick in the draft.  That made it much harder to bring young guys along, so Red offset this by making trades to improve the team.  Willie Naulls is a good example of this.  Don Nelson and Wayne Embry played for the Celtics because of Red’s shrewdness.

Mel Counts was a backup center, a seven-footer who couldn’t shoot from outside.  And because Russell was playing forty-eight minutes a game, Counts never got the opportunity to play.  Red used this to his advantage.  He had an unknown commodity, so he built Counts up in the eyes of the Baltimore brass.  There was a glut of forwards on the team at the time, thanks to a trade with New York, and there wasn’t really a center on the roster.  Johnny Kerr was at the end of his career, and he was dealing with back problems.  Bob Ferry wasn’t really big enough to play center.  So when the Bullets traded Walt Bellamy to the Knicks just eight games into the 1965-66 season, the team began to explore trade opportunities.  They decided to part with either a Bailey Howell or a Gus Johnson in order to get their center.  It was a big break for me
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The great Bill Russell was your teammate during your first three seasons in Boston.  Please tell me about Mr. Russell.  How did he handle the dual roles of player/coach?
 
It was a very difficult job, without question, but he handled it well.  The team was getting up in years.  Philly was the up-and-coming team.  The previous season the Sixers had the better record, and then they set the record for most wins.  They had players like Wilt Chamberlain, Hal Greer and Billy Cunningham.  And after Philly beat us 4-1 in the playoffs, everyone from the media to the fans was saying that the dynasty was over.  Boston was dead.  But we still had Bill Russell, and that was the biggest factor working in our favor.  Great players make the game easier for his teammates.  Bill did that.  He was the greatest MVP that ever walked onto the floor.

As a coach, Bill learned a lot that first year.  He also had a veteran team, which really helped, because the players knew what it took to win a championship.  I’m not so sure it would have worked if he had a roster full of younger players.  He was able to win championships those last two years, even though the team was continuing to age, and even though the Celtics were winning few games during the regular season.  We were 48-34 in 1968-69, but we were able to win the games that counted.  Bill deserves a lot of credit for that
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It would be hard to find a greater guard than the incomparable Sam Jones.  Please tell me about the incomparable Mr. Jones – what was it like to have him as a teammate?
 

Sam was a great person, a prolific scorer, and a complete basketball player.  He was also a big guard with a magic touch.  Whatever he did, he did well – whether is was playing cards, basketball, or anything else for that matter.  Anyone who played with him knew that Sam was a competitor and a winner.  The Celtics had a lot of guys like that.

Sam was at his most productive on the nights when the Celtics needed him most.  He was always a better player in the big games – not because he was holding back at other times, but because he loved to play under pressure.  He could raise his game when the stakes were the highest.  Sam Jones was a joy to play with.

 


 

 

In 1967, the Celtics had their streak of 8 consecutive NBA championships snapped.  Many experts thought that Boston was too old to win another title, but in 1968 that’s exactly what happened.  Please take me back to that championship series against the Lakers.  What was it like for you to finally win an NBA championship?
 
It was very satisfying.  We won that ’68 title by beating the Lakers in six games, the last of which was in Los Angeles.  That didn’t surprise me, because our road record that year was outstanding.  We took two of three road games against Detroit in the first round of the playoffs, three-of-four from Philly in the Eastern Division Finals, and then two-of-three from the Lakers to win it all.  Philly had the best record in the league again, with basically the same club that won the title the year before, and we finished even farther behind them in the standings.  But we played better at the most crucial times.  We won Game 1, Game 5 and Game 7 in Philly – in our minds, the team that presented the biggest obstacle in winning it all.  We were favored to beat the Lakers, and we dominated them.

The next year Wilt was traded to Los Angeles.  They weren’t the same without him, and we beat the Sixers 4-1 in the opening round.  New York was developing a really good club at that time, with players like Willis Reed, Walt Frazier, Dick Barnett, Dave DeBusschere and Bill Bradley.  They were the up-and-coming team, but we beat them head-to-head and ended up facing the Lakers again in the Finals.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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