HOMETOWN HERO
 

The Frank Ramsey Interview

 

By:  Michael D. McClellan | Tuesday, August 13th, 2002

 

 


 

 

You were the NBA’s first great Sixth Man, and such a vital part of the Boston Celtics’ success.  How were you able to come into a game completely cold and produce on such a consistent basis?
 
I don't know - I have to give a lot of the credit to Red Auerbach, because he was the one who set the rotation.  When I joined the team we had two all-star guards in Bob Cousy and Bill Sharman. They were tremendous players.  It was Red who decided on the substitution pattern from game-to-game, so my job was to be ready to play.  I watched the flow of the game and tried to keep myself prepared to contribute.  A lot of times, I would go in the game for Tom Heinsohn.

 


 

 

In Sam and KC Jones (no relation), you kept some pretty good company on the bench.  That’s three hall-of-fame players on the second unit.  What can you tell me about Sam and KC?
 
Okay, let's take them one at a time.  I first met Sam while I was still in the army - it was in Columbia, South Carolina, and the occasion was a basketball tournament at the air force base.  Sam is an outstanding individual.  I can't say enough about him.  As a player, he practiced to develop that famous bank shot of his - which he could hit from either side of the floor.  As a teammate he was everything you could ask for.  A true team player.  He was willing to wait his turn to start.  Just a tremendous basketball player.

KC was a student of the game, which helped him later when took over as coach of the Celtics.  He has a tremendous amount of integrity.  We lived close to each other during those days, and we would carpool to airport all of the time.  Those were good memories.  We would drive to the airport and solve all of the world's problems along the way.  [Laughs.]  I have a lot of respect for KC Jones.

 


 

 

The Celtics won 11 championships in 13 years.  I know that a lot of the credit goes to Bill Russell, but there had to be more to it than that.  Do you care to share the Boston Celtics' secret recipe for success?

 
The players that Red surrounded himself with all had a great deal of class.  That was what made the experience so special for me.  And everyone wanted to win.  It wasn't about individual accomplishments.

 

I think a lot of that can be traced to how many of us served in the military.  Jack Nichols, Jim Loscutoff, KC, Sam, myself - all of us served, so we were used to the discipline that comes with a winning program.  We didn't have a problem with Red giving the orders.  He was the general and we followed his orders.

 


 

 

I’ve heard that Red used to take the Celtics on the road for quite a number of exhibition games.  Were you ever a part of those trips?
 
Oh yes.  In those days we used to tour Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts - heck, we even went as far up as Holten, Maine.  I remember going on the road and playing fourteen games in fourteen days.  A team always traveled with us on those exhibitions, so we'd play the same team at every stop.  One year it was the Minneapolis Lakers, another the Cincinnati Royals, another the squad from Philadelphia.  That meant we might end up playing the same team twenty-five times or more during the course of the season.

 

On one particular trip I remember listening to the World Series as it was being played.  We'd get so tired of being around each other, I remember that as well.  There would always be a scuffle or two by the end of the trip.  You could always count on that.

 


 

 

What were Auerbach’s practices like?
 
Once the season started they were short and intense.  We really liked to scrimmage, that was the thing.  Russell didn't scrimmage as much as the rest of us, because he usually played the entire game.  That's forty-eight minutes of basketball, which places quite a demand on the body.

 

Our favorite scrimmages were usually the big guys against the little guys.  We would divide the teams up that way for two reasons;  because all of the little guys thought that they could play the pivot, and all of the big guys thought that they could bring the ball up the court.  [Laughs.]  We would also scrimmage five-against-five, eliminating a player from each team along the way, until it was down to one-against-one.  It was always a big competition to see who was named champion. 

 


 

 

Two seasons after Auerbach’s trade for Russell, the Boston Celtics and St. Louis Hawks each had one NBA Championship.  Did you think that the Celtics would go on to win the next eight consecutive championships, and ultimately, 11 in 13 years?
 
No. Our main concern was winning from year-to-year.  Things were a lot different back then.  We won our first championship on April 15th, 1957, and now the games run well into June.  Another big difference was that we all had summer jobs.  We had to, because we were paid only a small fraction of what the players make today.  When the season was over we all went our separate ways to make a living.  Bob Cousy had his summer camp, Loscy (Jim Loscutoff) had a camp, Tommy Heinsohn sold insurance.

 


 

 

And you had a successful construction business back home in Madisonville.
 
That's correct.  We built a little bit of everything - homes, buildings, even a nursing home.




 

 

 

 

 

 

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